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Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

05-19-2010 at 04:31:17 PM
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Assignment # 2, Another Tercet (Mourning)


Another tercet, brother Peat.

Mourning

Morning
deep across convoluded expanse of twisted heart
where you have been but where I am totally
empty and awake in mourning.

Morning
underneath the weight of ebbing tide-the building
blocks of bricks of tears that remain
unstemmed and not yielded in mourning.

Morning
from where the shop worn soul accommodates deathless
agony in vacuous heart alone seated on colorless bench
privately bowed in mourning.

Morning
above the point where I am too close to see chords
of subtle indifference and bayonet of lies clear on
through me while I remain in mourning.

Morning
passing through my chest in suspended torture not
yet dead but not quite alive as silent indictment
tied at the wrists in mourning.





05-31-2010 at 05:14:58 AM

RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet


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RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet
We all need to appreciate your presence here RH. We most likely can't do that commensurate with the wealth of insight you bring to the table. Thank you for this thread.Thank you for your teacher skills ...and thank you also for the great gains I will have made personally, as I follow your lessons.



Neville, you have said it for all of us, members of the SCHOOL OF POETRY.
RH PEAT has been doing a terrific, valuable set of lectures. He refuses to be nicknamed "Professor"., bless his magnanimous, handsome, dignifies and humble mind. "Let us not be weary in well doing," (Gal,6:9)


05-31-2010 at 05:14:58 AM

RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet


NevillePark
Posts: 99
RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet
We all need to appreciate your presence here RH. We most likely can't do that commensurate with the wealth of insight you bring to the table. Thank you for this thread.Thank you for your teacher skills ...and thank you also for the great gains I will have made personally, as I follow your lessons.



Neville, you have said it for all of us, members of the SCHOOL OF POETRY.
RH PEAT has been doing a terrific, valuable set of lectures, and . he refuses to be nicknamed "Professor"....LOL.. Bless his magnanimous, handsome, dignified and humble mind. "Let us not be weary in well doing," (Gal,6:9)


Last edited by cousinsoren 05-31-2010 at 05:16:59 AM

06-01-2010 at 03:00:14 PM

RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet


Poems for RHPeat's OP Forum Class Assignments

Poem # 1

in Student Critique Folder

Poem 2

The Suicide of Phoebe Prince and the two fallen angels

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/the-suicide-of-phoebe-prince-and-the-2-f



Poem 3

My Love makes me Glow

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/my-love-makes-me-glow



Poem 4

When the Mute Bird Sings

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/when-the-mute-bird-sings



Poem 5

Sweet Mary on the Prairie

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/sweet-mary-on-the-prairie



Poem 6

My Rosie Red Roses

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/my-rosie-red-roses



Poem 7

Office Flower, Annie Le

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/office-flower-annie-le



Poem 8

The Twins

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/the-twins



Poem 9

Sweet VelvetSmooth

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/sweet-velvetsmooth



Poem 10

Hugs to Your Heart

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/hugs-to-your-heart



Poem # 11 (a)

It was Sunday afternoon on Mission St.


http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/it-was-sunday-afternoon-on-mission-st



Poem # 11 (b)

The Exit Sign

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/the-exit-sign



Poem # 12

America, sweet Liberties

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/america-sweet-liberties-12



Poem # 13

Rainbow River

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/rainbow-river-13



Poem # 14 (a)

Strawberries by the Sea

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/strawberries-by-the-sea



Poem # 14 (b)

Wings of Burgundy

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/wings-of-burgundy-sontoum-sonnet-14



Poem # 15

To My HeartLove

http://www.originalpoetry.com/to-my-heartlove-15



Poem # 16

the Gate

http://www.originalpoetry.com/the-gate-15



Poem # 17

Once Upon a Dream

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/once-upon-a-dream-17-the-sestina



Poem # 18

Once Upon a Moon

http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/once-upon-a-moon-18-the-tuanortsa


Last edited by Springsize 06-01-2010 at 03:04:46 PM

06-30-2010 at 04:39:30 PM

poem 10 -18 la

Poem 10:
http://www.originalpoetry.com/pretty-birds-flocking
poem 11A
http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/floating-rock-terza-rima

poem 11B
http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/keep-your-chains-terza-rima-sonnet
Poem 12
http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/i-love-you-dearest-wife-of-mine-villanel
Poem 13. It gave me hell! I loved it!
http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/terzenelle
Poem 14. Sontoum
http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/nature-lover-sontoum

poem 15. Shakey's Sonnet
http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/a-love-that-blossomed-shakespearian-sonn

Poem 16 P. sonnet
http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/just-seventeen-petrachan-sonnet
Poem 17: Sestina
http://www.originalpoetry.com/i-only-wish-to-love-you-more-sestina
poem 18: tuanortsa
http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/i-am-the-wind-vane-tuanortsa


Hey, is school out for the summer or something? there is very little traffic... why?

07-14-2010 at 12:48:20 AM

RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

Hi Folks,

My name is Glenn Meisenheimer, but I go by the handle gmcookie here on OP. I have never taken a poetry class before, and this one looks like a good one. So, If there are no objections I'll just jump right in with the first poem:

Poem 1

Effort

http://www.originalpoetry.com/effort

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Poem 2


No Two the Same

http://www.originalpoetry.com/no-two-the-same


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Poem 3


Buying Sows

http://www.originalpoetry.com/buying-sows


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Poem 4


Grace


http://www.originalpoetry.com/grace_14

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Poem 5


The Cat


http://www.originalpoetry.com/the-cat_6

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Poem 6


The Past


http://www.originalpoetry.com/the-past_10

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Poem 7


Building Life


http://www.originalpoetry.com/building-life

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Poem 8


Love's Refrain


http://www.originalpoetry.com/loves-refrain

Last edited by gmcookie 07-29-2010 at 11:33:51 AM

07-27-2010 at 08:36:33 PM

RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

Ron,

Congratulations on the book release!

I'll ask my local bookstore to order me a copy,
and hope to have you sign it before the summer is over.

Big loud cheer and applause!!!!

Peace and Light,
Dah
grin

07-27-2010 at 09:41:43 PM
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RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

Congratulations Ron!! That is great news - I will definitely add it to my small but growing collection LOL

07-27-2010 at 09:46:55 PM

RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

Congradulations Peat,

all I have to say, a hard copy is on it's way.
Thank You, hopefully I can get it signed one day.
John E WordSlinger

07-29-2010 at 12:26:16 PM

Question on exercise 8

Mr. Peat...

I had a difficult time with Poem #8: http://www.originalpoetry.com/loves-refrain . It was really a problem of prosody. Thirteen syllables per line just seems odd to me. I found that so many compromises had to be taken that the entire rhythm of the piece was a bit off. Question: Why 13? Is that a number that will be significant as we pursue our elusive goal of the sonnet? If I wanted to re-write this (at some future time) using 14 syllables per line, would that be some kind of gaffe?

Best Regards,

Glen

09-13-2010 at 01:45:17 PM

RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

Hey Mentors and Friends... It has been so long since I've been here. I don't know if my reason counts as a good reason or if there is such a thing.. but I have my reason...
so here it is... well... I was writing my wife a poem and I thought it would take a week at most... however it took two months. Since then I've written a few small poems but I have a dry period where all I did was work on this one poem. This included days of doing nothing but staring at a word, wondering why did i put it there and what comes next... lol?

Here is the poem... http://www.originalpoetry.com/home/poems/view/title/journey-in-love-sonnet-redouble

It's still not perfect so go easy on me. I will be getting back to the assignments now.

RON, CONGRATS!!!! on the book. I would be ordering my copy soon...

have a blessed day all.


Les

Last edited by leslieAlexis 09-13-2010 at 01:46:17 PM

09-14-2010 at 12:08:31 AM

RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

So professor the antithesis in this case would be the 'resting' in comparison to tumbling?

09-14-2010 at 12:18:51 AM

RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

Thank you! simple? but not so simple.

09-14-2010 at 01:27:07 AM

RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

Amen. I agree fully... It's like a fance restaurant dish that cost a million bucks, yet is a small portion. The work that goes into it to make it what it is give it the value... not it's size. smile.

09-25-2010 at 10:19:53 PM
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RE: RE: Aria’s haiku

Excellent haiku! The line "Her flanks wet with sweat" struck me a very sensual -


Quote:
Originally Posted by Aria

wild mare galloping
fast into the setting sun
her flanks wet with sweat

09-25-2010 at 10:44:38 PM

RE: RE: Aria’s haiku

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aria

wild mare galloping
fast into the setting sun
her flanks wet with sweat


So... beautiful image. \

About following the rules, I don't see a specific kigo. You have a nice constrast between galloping and setting... where one is moving and the other coming to rest. Overall very nice.. now... put in a kigo. smile Les

09-26-2010 at 07:22:03 AM

RE: RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

Quote:
Originally Posted by Forestbird

I just found this very interesting and educational thread.
I wrote this poem without any knowledge about anaphors but probably they are present here.

Mountain and Desert

Should I climb the mountain to reach your heart?
All the paths are rocky and slope is steep
But the air is crystal and sky is blue
Should I climb the mountain to reach your heart?

Should I go through the desert to touch your hand?
Even heat is exhausting and send is dry
But the stars are the brightest there at night
Should I go through the desert to touch your hand?

No… I only have to jump in my car
And drive for an hour to come to your place
And just fall in your arms and forget the world
Yes I only have to jump in my car

I am sure I’ll be able to touch your hand
But it’s not that easy to reach your heart
Only hour of driving --easy way
But the Mountain and Desert still in place…

Forestbird

Nicely composed quatrains, indicating that you have caught on to the anaphora. . Ask Peat to crtitque your poem. I don't want to suggest that you could have devised the last two stanzas to maintain consistency of the anaphora and style throughout the entire poem. Nice little love poem.
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Last edited by cousinsoren 09-26-2010 at 07:50:08 AM

09-26-2010 at 10:42:11 AM

RE: RE: RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

Quote:
Originally Posted by cousinsoren

Originally Posted by Forestbird

I just found this very interesting and educational thread.
I wrote this poem without any knowledge about anaphors but probably they are present here.

Mountain and Desert

Should I climb the mountain to reach your heart?
All the paths are rocky and slope is steep
But the air is crystal and sky is blue
Should I climb the mountain to reach your heart?

Should I go through the desert to touch your hand?
Even heat is exhausting and send is dry
But the stars are the brightest there at night
Should I go through the desert to touch your hand?

No… I only have to jump in my car
And drive for an hour to come to your place
And just fall in your arms and forget the world
Yes I only have to jump in my car

I am sure I’ll be able to touch your hand
But it’s not that easy to reach your heart
Only hour of driving --easy way
But the Mountain and Desert still in place…

Forestbird

Nicely composed quatrains, indicating that you have caught on to the anaphora. . Ask Peat to crtitque your poem. I don't want to suggest that you could have devised the last two stanzas to maintain consistency of the anaphora and style throughout the entire poem. Nice little love poem.
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The poem has a more extreme form of anaphora in that it has "repetons" as found in the villanelle and terzenelle. Anaphoras is a repition at the beginning not the entire lines. The poem is lovely.

09-26-2010 at 01:18:38 PM

RE: RE: RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

Quote:
Originally Posted by RHPeat

Originally Posted by leslieAlexis

So professor the antithesis in this case would be the 'resting' in comparison to tumbling?


or
in the air and on the ground: resting & tumbling/ in opposition: mirroring
inferred: cold and dead/ conjoined in surrender. Giving way.
Seasons: flowing into one another/ autumn into winter. Leaves fall, yet it is cold night air.

The grace of the oak is steadfast throughout its seasons and years.

Much is inferred with real antithesis that convey feelings to the reader that looks for the depth hidden within the images. Haiku like a Sonnet can be very deep in its presentation.

a poet friend
RH Peat


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This is brief, lucid and competently analytical, Ron. No beating around thew bush!

09-26-2010 at 08:26:32 PM

RE: RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

Quote:
Originally Posted by Springsize


Thank you RHPeat ... for this exercise in Nature and pen control ... and I hope that I have come close to the Haiku Kigu Form ...



the cold is aching
within dormant seeds and bones
to move and find warmth


what is your real name?

The haiku is on point. It has all the essential parts...

09-27-2010 at 02:31:46 PM

RE: RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

Quote:
Originally Posted by Springsize

Thank you RHPeat ... for this exercise in Nature and pen control ... and I hope that I have come close to the Haiku Kigu Form

....

the cold is aching
within dormant seeds and bones
to move and find warmth


Beautiful dear, love the Haiku, glad the picture worked out for you........love asha

09-27-2010 at 09:02:16 PM

RE: RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

Quote:
Originally Posted by RHPeat

Remember not to use the class as a discussion page. Post on critiques on your critique page and poems on your poem page.

a poet friend
RH Peat


I'm sorry RH, I think I am a bit confused with your comment, if I take this class are you saying we don't post our poems here we post and critique them on our own pages......thanks love asha

12-24-2010 at 03:22:14 PM
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RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

A thought you might ponder:

. The poet Rilke wrote, "There is no place that does not see you. You must change your life."

What do you think Rilke means? Does it inspire you to write a poem?

Hi RHPeat - this quote immediately made me think of the fact that no matter where a person goes, moves to, travels from, they are still with themselves. We cannot hide our problems etc by moving to another place - we are always with ourselves. So yes, there is no place that does not see us because we do not "hide" or change when we relocate. We must change our lives!

It might inspire me to write - but my mind is on holiday overdrive, which is distracting and exhausting.

I like the new form of poem you've posted. I will definitely be attempting that form soon!

Grateful student,
kah

12-29-2010 at 06:15:03 PM

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01-09-2011 at 03:12:19 PM

RE: Working toward the sonnet/starting as the novice poet

Hello, and welcome to my poetry thread. Thank you all who take the time to read and comment on my work. I always appreciate your thoughts and your honesty.
Best Wishes!

Poem #1 (anaphora and contrast)http://
www.originalpoetry.com/heaven-to-hell-and-back

Poem #2 (tercet and refrain)
http://www.originalpoetry.com/where-you-stand

Poem # 3 (conceit)
http://www.originalpoetry.com/promis-of-spring

Poem #3 (conceit) Wrote a new poem for this exercise.
http://www.originalpoetry.com/blazing-anew

Poem #4 (ambiguity)
http://www.originalpoetry.com/rosebud

Poem #5
http://www.originalpoetry.com/the-sword_2

Poem #6
http://www.originalpoetry.com/winter-time-blues

Poem #7
http://www.originalpoetry.com/song-bird_4

Poem #8
http://www.originalpoetry.com/change-forever

Last edited by JanetGunn 03-10-2011 at 11:35:49 AM

Poetry is not an expression of the party line. It's that time of night, lying in bed, thinking what you really think, making the private world public, that's what the poet does.

Allen Ginsberg (1926-1997) U.S. poet.