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Channeling The Flow

03-22-2010 at 06:20:03 PM

Channeling The Flow

There are a good number of wordsmiths and free thinkers in this note-worthy poetry site. Papa should be proud of what he's gathered here.We should by all means be ready to help each other improve our craft and as is the case with most of us, the desire to invest more time and focus on writing is resident within our souls. I would like to see myself giving back into this place what ever creative insight God has blessed me with. I 've been getting folks asking to critique their work from time. I'd like to do that, but let's channel the flow into this thread which I can more easily monitor. Bless you. grin gulp

Last edited by NevillePark 03-22-2010 at 06:41:19 PM

03-22-2010 at 06:39:41 PM

Sonnets anyone?

There will be others here establishing formats of approach; lessons and exercises to work on together. I have no formal education which qualifies me for anything at all. Regardless I have some useful insights from time to time and I strive to implement proper grammatical structure in whatever I write. I think we can all eventually learn to get into the swing of things in giving and receiving constructive advice as long as we know that's the freedom we have. Meanwhile I'd like to start a project. I've wondered about writing a SONNET. I was on a site yesterday on the Sonnets of Shakespeare. I'll share more, but let's gear up to write one this week. Google sonnet and start constructing.~NevillePark

03-22-2010 at 07:05:49 PM

RE: Channeling The Flow

smile, Neville,
for starters I need a window seat, left front, I need the view of the Trees, and Animals. Yes the one near the pencil sharpener, wink.
Happy to be here, and I know who else that is Happy that you are here, but she's late for class, lol. Sonnet, alrighty then, oh that's Leroy, he wants a seat in the back.
He's good you'll love him. John E WordSlinger

03-22-2010 at 07:31:44 PM

RE: Sonnets anyone?

Quote:
Originally Posted by NevillePark

There will be others here establishing formats of approach; lessons and exercises to work on together. I have no formal education which qualifies me for anything at all. Regardless I have some useful insights from time to time and I strive to implement proper grammatical structure in whatever I write. I think we can all eventually learn to get into the swing of things in giving and receiving constructive advice as long as we know that's the freedom we have. Meanwhile I'd like to start a project. I've wondered about writing a SONNET. I was on a site yesterday on the Sonnets of Shakespeare. I'll share more, but let's gear up to write one this week. Google sonnet and start constructing.~NevillePark



I've posted several sonnets, if you'd like to take a look. some of them are plainly called "sonnet 3" or "...4", some have names. "If words could weave a fisher's net" is a sonnet with a couplet finishing it off.

Ole' Willy was the sonnet master, but the language can be tough (or that just could be my youth talking).

03-22-2010 at 07:33:23 PM
  • kabbalistic
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RE: Channeling The Flow

I'm here for class, Brother Neville!gringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringrin

03-22-2010 at 07:46:58 PM

RE: Channeling The Flow

I've been wanting to try my hand at this for a while now. But I don't know, all my attempts have either turned out totally different or fell flat.
Count me in.

03-22-2010 at 07:53:38 PM

TIPS - (Somewhere around 10 or 15 percent ?)

I believe in thoughtful content and deliberate clarity as being key elements with written communication ... if only to stave off the clouds of confusion and ambiguity. It's been a tradition in classrooms since forever to "find your own meaning" with the classic works. We tend to want to pick the authors brain in postmortem fashion.There likely is justifiable cause with most- because the order of things was different "back then" as well as having details hard to come by. Weaving word puzzles into a work is a big part of the enjoyment for both the reader and the writer. However there's a line I believe which when crossed, a writer excludes the reader by "hoarding understanding" ... something in the order of having an inside joke. I believe anything written can be mysterious and at the same time user friendly. It's a big part we play in making sure we avoid reader confusion with word choices that don't aptly describe, or have neglected to check spelling and proper phrasing. gulp

Last edited by NevillePark 03-26-2010 at 11:36:58 PM

03-22-2010 at 07:58:37 PM

RE: RE: Channeling The Flow

Quote:
Originally Posted by kabbalistic

I'm here for class, Brother Neville!gringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringrin


**************************************************************************Heh-heh-heh! LOL

03-22-2010 at 08:02:20 PM

RE: RE: Sonnets anyone?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BDIsernhagen

Originally Posted by NevillePark

There will be others here establishing formats of approach; lessons and exercises to work on together. I have no formal education which qualifies me for anything at all. Regardless I have some useful insights from time to time and I strive to implement proper grammatical structure in whatever I write. I think we can all eventually learn to get into the swing of things in giving and receiving constructive advice as long as we know that's the freedom we have. Meanwhile I'd like to start a project. I've wondered about writing a SONNET. I was on a site yesterday on the Sonnets of Shakespeare. I'll share more, but let's gear up to write one this week. Google sonnet and start constructing.~NevillePark



I've posted several sonnets, if you'd like to take a look. some of them are plainly called "sonnet 3" or "...4", some have names. "If words could weave a fisher's net" is a sonnet with a couplet finishing it off.

Ole' Willy was the sonnet master, but the language can be tough (or that just could be my youth talking).


Tell you what my man! I can take lessons from you any day. I'm hoping to see you pitch in and help where you see the need. I'll check out your offerings. You're away ahead of most everyone - Drop in your best as a reference point for us all.

03-22-2010 at 08:05:09 PM

RE: RE: Channeling The Flow

Quote:
Originally Posted by KtIrish

I've been wanting to try my hand at this for a while now. But I don't know, all my attempts have either turned out totally different or fell flat.
Count me in.

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You can do it ... Yes you can!
(repeat, repeat in cheer leading style)

03-22-2010 at 08:11:21 PM

RE: RE: Channeling The Flow

Quote:
Originally Posted by WordSlinger

smile, Neville,
for starters I need a window seat, left front, I need the view of the Trees, and Animals. Yes the one near the pencil sharpener, wink.
Happy to be here, and I know who else that is Happy that you are here, but she's late for class, lol. Sonnet, alrighty then, oh that's Leroy, he wants a seat in the back.
He's good you'll love him. John E WordSlinger

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So folks - - WS is over there, If you pass your dull pencils over to him he'll sharpen them for you. Coffee break is at 10:30 AM.

03-24-2010 at 12:42:53 PM
  • kabbalistic
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Sonnet 0

Here is my sonnet. The meter may be a little different from what a Shakesperean sonnet should be, but there some latitude permitted in a Shakesperean sonnet. The imagery is taken from Psalm 133, and the idiomatic ''baby'' could be replaced with the word ''lover''. This is my contribution to the world of ''viagra'' poetry! LOL What do you think?winkwinkwink

Sonnet 0


A votive offering at your altar,
Of manly, egocentric pride;
A sacrifice I make in earnest,
Oh baby, let me come inside!
The sweet annointing of your bosom.
Down my garments to my feet;
The burning embers of your passion,
I bow before your mercy seat.

Too long you've left me in this dungeon;
Too distant to be satisfied;
The raging passion overcoming,
Hope deferred and love denied;
Enflamed I am with raging passion,
Oh baby, let me come inside!





03-24-2010 at 10:15:58 PM

RE: The Poetry of John E WordSlinger

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Poem 1 ~ WordSlinger
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Reviewed by Neville Park 3-24
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A Renegades Rhythm of Remorse


People,
Last night an Angel on the moon slept
(angels never sleep, but since it can’t be proven unequivocally we can let it go)
And I listened, but something was in lack
Upon my opened eyes the phone had rang,
(Past tense of the verb ring when preceded by has or had, might or could have= is rung.)
A friend said, a friend committed suicide;
My day turned so black
Then I heard the sound,
a pound from the ground,
I knew he wanted back


People,
Tonight an Angel on the moon shall dream
On beckon call, ( At beckon call) but hear no bang;
And now I know, that someone is in slack
( slacks - -now I know that someone is in slacks!)
[… Just kidding]
A neighbor, a neighbor who could have sang; (sung)
Their day turned so black
Again I’ll hear the sound,
A pound from the ground,
(but not a pound of ground round from the ground)
There’s no turning back

Not bad so far. The spell checker doesn’t know tense, so couldn’t help you out.
I’ll give you a passing grade for the weightiness of the subject. A solid “B” goes to WordSlinger for this one.







cheese

03-24-2010 at 10:42:50 PM

RE: The Poetry of John E WordSlinger




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Poem 2 ~ By WordSlinger -
(NevillePark's assessment below)

Time Wears High Heels

Whoo,
time is naked, and so sexy; time wears high heels, baby
The whole nest is in hock, everything from tree to tree
Signs of it are in every flock, the ground is out of seed

Whoo,
the whole nest is now in line, worms think birds are a crime
Eagles wont tell you that because they can’t, deceitful birds
We are just at the beginning of an implant, smile for time

Whoo,
so you the brave wanted Change, well you got it,
7 years for 7 years, Time repeats itself, so queer
Keep your faith, and to those you can surely spot it

Yes,
to question it’s character, We’re afraid that it is no charade
Time is so pretty, if you look, Awe, so sweet, it has braids
Let us grasp them, and all time is up in the air, for us to share

Whoo,
not to mention its sexy legs, come here, let us fertilize your eggs
The whole world wants a shot, that’s right, we think you’re hot
You may think this is out place, but we’re not so, like two faced

Time,
that’s because you just keep coming and coming
Well if you want us to be a good Father
Then your going to have to be a good Mother
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This offering is totally outside of the realm of possibility for a critique.
NOTE FROM TEACHER ~ WordSlinger I want you to stay after class and write out 100 time on the blackboard ..." I will not dishonor my muse by taking the gift of levity beyond reasonable limits." shock

03-24-2010 at 11:09:31 PM

RE: Sonnet 0

Sonnet 0


A votive offering at your altar,
Of manly, egocentric pride;
A sacrifice I make in earnest,
Oh baby, let me come inside!
The sweet annointing of your bosom.
Down my garments to my feet;
The burning embers of your passion,
I bow before your mercy seat.

Too long you've left me in this dungeon;
Too distant to be satisfied;
The raging passion overcoming,
Hope deferred and love denied;
Enflamed I am with raging passion,
Oh baby, let me come inside![/i][/b]

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A highly gifted individual you are Mr Kabbal. There are few who could render so malleable, the word of God as to come up with a rhyme such as yours. I for one am thankful. blank stare
You can take home an "A". You might have garnered an A+ if the content were slightly more substantive in scope.

Last edited by NevillePark 03-24-2010 at 11:11:44 PM

03-26-2010 at 08:42:30 AM

RE: Channeling The Flow

Quote:
Originally Posted by NevillePark

There are a good number of wordsmiths and free thinkers in this note-worthy poetry site. Papa should be proud of what he's gathered here.We should by all means be ready to help each other improve our craft and as is the case with most of us, the desire to invest more time and focus on writing is resident within our souls. I would like to see myself giving back into this place what ever creative insight God has blessed me with. I 've been getting folks asking to critique their work from time. I'd like to do that, but let's channel the flow into this thread which I can more easily monitor. Bless you. grin gulp


Hi, Neville,

I pray I find you doing very well. I love what you have written here. Please peruse and edit. Cool runnin's, Friend.

03-26-2010 at 08:50:56 AM

RE: Sonnets anyone?

Quote:
Originally Posted by NevillePark

There will be others here establishing formats of approach; lessons and exercises to work on together. I have no formal education which qualifies me for anything at all. Regardless I have some useful insights from time to time and I strive to implement proper grammatical structure in whatever I write. I think we can all eventually learn to get into the swing of things in giving and receiving constructive advice as long as we know that's the freedom we have. Meanwhile I'd like to start a project. I've wondered about writing a SONNET. I was on a site yesterday on the Sonnets of Shakespeare. I'll share more, but let's gear up to write one this week. Google sonnet and start constructing.~NevillePark


GREETINGS, Neville

I love what you are saying and doing here. As soon as I get a bag of prose off my back, I'll be coming aboard......grinzipper

03-26-2010 at 09:00:37 AM

RE: RE: Sonnets anyone?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BDIsernhagen

Originally Posted by NevillePark

There will be others here establishing formats of approach; lessons and exercises to work on together. I have no formal education which qualifies me for anything at all. Regardless I have some useful insights from time to time and I strive to implement proper grammatical structure in whatever I write. I think we can all eventually learn to get into the swing of things in giving and receiving constructive advice as long as we know that's the freedom we have. Meanwhile I'd like to start a project. I've wondered about writing a SONNET. I was on a site yesterday on the Sonnets of Shakespeare. I'll share more, but let's gear up to write one this week. Google sonnet and start constructing.~NevillePark


Hi, Brett,

I plan to read, :"If Words


I've posted several sonnets, if you'd like to take a look. some of them are plainly called "sonnet 3" or "...4", some have names. "If words could weave a fisher's net" is a sonnet with a couplet finishing it off.

Ole' Willy was the sonnet master, but the language can be tough (or that just could be my youth talking).


Hi, Brett,

I plan to read, "If Words Could Weave A Fisher's Net," this weekend. Chau.

03-26-2010 at 09:05:18 AM

RE: RE: Channeling The Flow

Quote:
Originally Posted by kabbalistic

I'm here for class, Brother Neville!gringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringrin


Kabbalitic, Kabbalistic, The Teacher attending class! That's what I call progress! I'll sit beside you, Welcome! No chatting in the class, only listening, asking and answering questions, thinking and absorbing.....LOLsmile

03-26-2010 at 09:30:37 AM

RE: Sonnets anyone?

Quote:
Originally Posted by NevillePark

There will be others here establishing formats of approach; lessons and exercises to work on together. I have no formal education which qualifies me for anything at all. Regardless I have some useful insights from time to time and I strive to implement proper grammatical structure in whatever I write. I think we can all eventually learn to get into the swing of things in giving and receiving constructive advice as long as we know that's the freedom we have. Meanwhile I'd like to start a project. I've wondered about writing a SONNET. I was on a site yesterday on the Sonnets of Shakespeare. I'll share more, but let's gear up to write one this week. Google sonnet and start constructing.~NevillePark



THIS IS GREAT! I shall come aboard , as soon as I get a bag of prose off my back.......LOL

03-26-2010 at 09:36:53 AM

RE: RE: Channeling The Flow

Quote:
Originally Posted by kabbalistic

I'm here for class, Brother Neville!gringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringringrin


RAIN OR SHINE, NEVER BE LATE FOR CLASS!..........LOLLOL

No chatting in class either only asking and answering questions, listening, thinking and absorbing. You may play the role of teacher, when the teacher is not around. Of course, ideas from students are encouraged, as evidence that you are eager to learn or to share what you know.......LOLcheese

Last edited by cousinsoren 03-26-2010 at 09:39:38 AM

03-26-2010 at 09:42:06 AM

RE: RE: Channeling The Flow

Quote:
Originally Posted by KtIrish

I've been wanting to try my hand at this for a while now. But I don't know, all my attempts have either turned out totally different or fell flat.
Count me in.


Hi, Kt,

Long time no see! Can I sit next to you in class? Love you.

03-26-2010 at 09:51:32 AM

RE: TIPS - (Somewhere around 10 or 15 percent ?)

Quote:
Originally Posted by NevillePark

I believe in thoughtful content and deliberate clarity as being key elements with written communication ... if only to stave off the clouds of confusion and ambiguity. It's been a tradition in classrooms since forever to "find your own meaning" with the classic works. We tend to want to pick the authors brain in postmortem fashion.There likely is justifiable cause with most- because the order of things was different "back then" as well as having details hard to come by. Weaving word puzzles into a work is a big part of the enjoyment for both the reader and the writer. However there's a line I believe which when crossed, a writer excludes the reader by "hoarding understanding" ... something in the order of having an inside joke. I believe anything written can be mysterious and at the same time user friendly. It's a big part we play in making sure we ban confusion with word choices that aptly describe and spelling or phrasing that doesn't mislead or is aimless in it's function. - Any rebuttals on the subject?
gulp



Neville, this, your mission statement is erudite, and clearly well written. It is very explicit. However , please re-read and edit your last sentence: It's a big part .....etc........LOL

03-26-2010 at 10:03:55 AM

RE: The Poetry of John E WordSlinger

Quote:
Originally Posted by WordSlinger

All of My Assignments/Poems shall be posted in this same section, so check back, also they will be on the same link page below to comment/grade on, thankl you very much, WS
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Poem 0 Assignment:Sonnet

THE OFFICE OF FIRE

Let the ice open your eyes to doth thaw,
So numbers tell a new posted story.
Get a good look at the sky iron flaw,
So our science plays with our God glory.
Our time now, they cry out is short and slim,
And most mouths are filled with a loved substance;
And lost foreclosure maybe the earths’ grim ,
Drenching the fabrics on our backs, financed;
But they have the answers bottled in schools,
For the janitors really are the yank,
Nor shall anyone of us change the rules,
Because they the porters know what we’ve sank,
So in the name of saving all, our life,
Sectors are justified by paper knifes.
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Poem 1
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A Renegades Rhythm of Remorse


People,
Last night an Angel on the moon slept
The morning came, and the birds sang;
And I listened, but something was in lack
Upon my opened eyes the phone had rang,
A friend said, a friend committed suicide;
My day turned so black
Then I heard the sound,
a pound from the ground,
I knew he wanted back


People,
Tonight an Angel on the moon shall dream
On beckon call, but hear no bang;
And now I know, that someone is in slack
A neighbor, a neighbor who could have sang;
Their day turned so black
Again I’ll hear the sound,
A pound from the ground,
There’s no turning back
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Poem 2

Time Wears High Heels

Whoo,
time is naked, and so sexy; time wears high heels, baby
The whole nest is in hock, everything from tree to tree
Signs of it are in every flock, the ground is out of seed

Whoo,
the whole nest is now in line, worms think birds are a crime
Eagles wont tell you that because they can’t, deceitful birds
We are just at the beginning of an implant, smile for time

Whoo,
so you the brave wanted Change, well you got it,
7 years for 7 years, Time repeats itself, so queer
Keep your faith, and to those you can surely spot it

Yes,
to question it’s character, We’re afraid that it is no charade
Time is so pretty, if you look, Awe, so sweet, it has braids
Let us grasp them, and all time is up in the air, for us to share

Whoo,
not to mention its sexy legs, come here, let us fertilize your eggs
The whole world wants a shot, that’s right, we think you’re hot
You may think this is out place, but we’re not so, like two faced

Time,
that’s because you just keep coming and coming
Well if you want us to be a good Father
Then your going to have to be a good Mother
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Thank You, John E WordSlinger
Comment - Critique Poema Linkz
Poem-0
http://www.originalpoetry.com/the-office-of-fire-sonnet
Poem-1
http://www.originalpoetry.com/a-renegades-rhythm-of-remorse
Poem-3
http://www.originalpoetry.com/time-wears-high-heels
Here are the Sources:

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/writing-a-sonnet.htm
http://www.poeticbyway.com/glossary.html
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Poem entertainment, these 2 poems are mini movies:
Please take a read at break, and comment:
http://www.originalpoetry.com/farewell-to-the-weeping-rose

http://www.originalpoetry.com/tale-of-a-romantic


I need time to read and read these cryptic and masterly lines on Time. They cannor be browsed. They must be chewed on and slowly ingested.

03-26-2010 at 10:24:45 AM

RE: Sonnet 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by kabbalistic

Here is my sonnet. The meter may be a little different from what a Shakesperean sonnet should be, but there some latitude permitted in a Shakesperean sonnet. The imagery is taken from Psalm 133, and the idiomatic ''baby'' could be replaced with the word ''lover''. This is my contribution to the world of ''viagra'' poetry! LOL What do you think?winkwinkwink

Sonnet 0


A votive offering at your altar,
Of manly, egocentric pride;
A sacrifice I make in earnest,
Oh baby, let me come inside!
The sweet annointing of your bosom.
Down my garments to my feet;
The burning embers of your passion,
I bow before your mercy seat.

Too long you've left me in this dungeon;
Too distant to be satisfied;
The raging passion overcoming,
Hope deferred and love denied;
Enflamed I am with raging passion,
Oh baby, let me come inside!







This is a delectable sonnet adhering to the Petrarchan mode - an octave plus a sestet. The theme can be lighty-hearted or declamatory, suggesting an appeal to a lover,as in this sonnet. There should be no division into two stanzas. The sonnet is a composite whole of fourteen lines. However, remedy this, Kabbaliistic , and go to the top of the class....LOL

Last edited by cousinsoren 03-26-2010 at 10:56:53 AM

A poem begins as a lump in the throat, a sense of wrong, a homesickness, a lovesickness. It finds the thought and the thought finds the words.

Robert Frost (1875-1963) American Poet.